Responses to 4th-credit pay

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Responses to 4th-credit pay

by suarezj

30 May 2001 19:03 UTC

Colleagues -

Here (attached) are the responses to my request for ideas dealing with 
justification for 4th-credit pay.  My thanks to those who replied.  I hope 
that their comments are as useful to you as they have been to me.

Enjoy your summer!

john

John Suarez
Writing Instructor
English Department
SUNY Cortland
P.O. Box 2000
Cortland, New York  13035
(607) 753-2320

Title: RE: Request for ideas and data - Message

WebMail - RE: Request for ideas and data

Date Sent:	Monday, April 09, 2001 5:39 PM
From:	Laurie Olson-Horswill <ljolsonh@nic.edu>
To:	suarezj
Subject:	RE: Request for ideas and data
	Urgent New

John,

I received your attachments just fine, thank you so much. Despite people's support for the many "goods" of service-learning, they have such a hard time deciding to support the concept financially and institutionally. The obstacle in our case is the person who started the program, strangely enough. She thinks we should keep service-learning small and voluntary, rather than offering the fourth credit option and integrating service into more classes across the curriculum. Our English department in particular has really embraced service. The fourth credit really would reward both students and faculty who already work so hard in intensive composition courses. I'll wish you luck, and perhaps we'll make some progress next year. By the way, the best fourth credit option I've seen is at Georgetown.

Laurie Olson-Horswill
Service-Learning Faculty Coordinator
Tenured English Instructor
North Idaho College
1000 West Garden Avenue
Coeur d'Alene, ID 83814
(208) 769-7827
ljolsonh@nic.edu

Title: RE: Request for ideas and data - Message

WebMail - RE: Request for ideas and data

Date Sent:	Monday, April 09, 2001 2:09 PM
From:	Paul Loeb <PaulLoeb@bigfoot.com>
To:	suarezj
Subject:	RE: Request for ideas and data
	Urgent New

It's definitely a measure of institutional commitment, because these kinds
of programs do take more work. If colleges are going to really support them,
it takes more than lip service..

Paul Loeb, author Soul of a Citizen: Living With Conviction in a Cynical
Time. Please visit http://www.soulofacitizen.org/ and pass the word.

-----Original Message-----
From: service-learning-owner@csf.colorado.edu
[service-learning-owner@csf.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of suarezj
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:58 AM
To: Colorado Listserv
Subject: Request for ideas and data

Colleagues -

At SUNY Cortland, students in service-learning composition sections receive
_4_ credits. Those of us who teach these sections are constructing
arguments
to justify paying instructors for that 4th credit. Basically, we're arguing
that
- We design and evaluate more writing assignments than a "traditional"
composition class.
- We have additional administrative work associated with SL, and we would
have
that work even if SL were institutionalized on this campus.

Please let me know about additional reasons &/or evidence for this argument
(pro or con). I will share all the responses with you.

Thank you

john

John Suarez
Writing Instructor
English Department
SUNY Cortland
P.O. Box 2000
Cortland, New York 13035
(607) 753-2320

Title: RE: Request for ideas and data - Message

WebMail - RE: Request for ideas and data

Date Sent:	Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:24 PM
From:	Mary Morrison <mmorriso@email.unc.edu>
To:	suarezj
Subject:	RE: Request for ideas and data
	Urgent New

We consider the work that takes place in the community (3 hours per week
for 10 weeks) the equivalent of a lab. mm

suarezj wrote:
>
> Colleagues -
>
> At SUNY Cortland, students in service-learning composition sections receive
> _4_ credits. Those of us who teach these sections are constructing arguments
> to justify paying instructors for that 4th credit. Basically, we're arguing
> that
> - We design and evaluate more writing assignments than a "traditional"
> composition class.
> - We have additional administrative work associated with SL, and we would have
> that work even if SL were institutionalized on this campus.
>
> Please let me know about additional reasons &/or evidence for this argument
> (pro or con). I will share all the responses with you.
>
> Thank you
>
> john
>
> John Suarez
> Writing Instructor
> English Department
> SUNY Cortland
> P.O. Box 2000
> Cortland, New York 13035
> (607) 753-2320

Title: RE: Request for ideas and data - Message

WebMail - RE: Request for ideas and data

Date Sent:	Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:25 PM
From:	Laurie Olson-Horswill <ljolsonh@nic.edu>
To:	suarezj
Subject:	RE: Request for ideas and data
	Urgent New

I would also say that you spend extra time conferencing with students in service-learning, John, since they need time both to reflect on what they are doing in the community and to connect their volunteering to their writing. I would be very interested, by the way, in learning more about how you actually offer the 4th credit to these students and how you were able to get the credit authorized? Could you send any information my way, even just attaching some course descriptions or web site URLs? I'm trying to get a 4th credit option set up myself.

Laurie Olson-Horswill
Service-Learning Faculty Coordinator
Tenured English Instructor
North Idaho College
1000 West Garden Avenue
Coeur d'Alene, ID 83814
(208) 769-7827
ljolsonh@nic.edu

>>> suarezj <suarezj@snycorva.cortland.edu> 04/05 9:58 AM >>>
Colleagues -

At SUNY Cortland, students in service-learning composition sections receive _4_ credits. Those of us who teach these sections are constructing arguments to justify paying instructors for that 4th credit. Basically, we're arguing that
- We design and evaluate more writing assignments than a "traditional" composition class. - We have additional administrative work associated with SL, and we would have that work even if SL were institutionalized on this campus.

Please let me know about additional reasons &/or evidence for this argument (pro or con). I will share all the responses with you.

Thank you

john

John Suarez
Writing Instructor
English Department
SUNY Cortland
P.O. Box 2000
Cortland, New York 13035
(607) 753-2320

Title: RE: Request for ideas and data - Message

WebMail - RE: Request for ideas and data

Date Sent:	Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:00 PM
From:	"Kim K. Johnson" <kim.johnson@louisville.edu>
To:	suarezj
Subject:	RE: Request for ideas and data
	Urgent New

it requires more advanced planning, lots of follow up w/community partners & students, more phone & foot work! send me the final proposal. I am the Service Learning Coordinator for the University of Louisville, KY & I teach one section of English Comp. each semester using service learning--he
re's my schedule for their Service Learning profile project in which they interview seniors--it takes lots of planning!!!! Kim
>>> suarezj <suarezj@snycorva.cortland.edu> 04/05/01 12:58PM >>>
Colleagues -

At SUNY Cortland, students in service-learning composition sections receive _4_ credits. Those of us who teach these sections are constructing arguments to justify paying instructors for that 4th credit. Basically, we're arguing that
- We design and evaluate more writing assignments than a "traditional" composition class. - We have additional administrative work associated with SL, and we would have that work even if SL were institutionalized on this campus.

Please let me know about additional reasons &/or evidence for this argument (pro or con). I will share all the responses with you.

Thank you

john

John Suarez
Writing Instructor
English Department
SUNY Cortland
P.O. Box 2000
Cortland, New York 13035
(607) 753-2320

English 101 Updated Schedule.doc

Title: RE: Request for ideas and data - Message

WebMail - RE: Request for ideas and data

Date Sent:	Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:54 PM
From:	Susan Giguere <Susan.Giguere@metrostate.edu>
To:	suarezj
Subject:	RE: Request for ideas and data
	Urgent New

I will be out of the office for a conference through April 9. If you have questions regarding CBL, please contact Lori Page at (651) 772-7788 or lori.page@metrostate.edu. Thanks.

Title: RE: Request for ideas and data - Message

WebMail - RE: Request for ideas and data

Date Sent:	Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:02 PM
From:	John Guffey <jguffey@unm.edu>
To:	suarezj
Subject:	RE: Request for ideas and data
	Urgent New

John,
Your approach at SUNY Cortland prompted me to contact the Chair of Arts and
Letters here at UNM-G to see if we could do something similar in
composition courses. She was interested and asked if I could get some
sample service-learning units from SUNY. Can you supply us with some of
your work? For our faculty, the 4th credit hour would probably be an
overload situation, for which faculty are paid a pro-rated amount. That's
a way to get some compensation.
Regards, John

John Guffey
Director, Center for Service-Learning
University of New Mexico-Gallup
200 College Drive
Gallup, New Mexico 87301
505-863-7525
505-863-7717 (FAX)

At 12:58 PM 4/5/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Colleagues -
>
>At SUNY Cortland, students in service-learning composition sections receive
>_4_ credits. Those of us who teach these sections are constructing
arguments
>to justify paying instructors for that 4th credit. Basically, we're arguing
>that
>- We design and evaluate more writing assignments than a "traditional"
>composition class.
>- We have additional administrative work associated with SL, and we would
have
>that work even if SL were institutionalized on this campus.
>
>Please let me know about additional reasons &/or evidence for this argument
>(pro or con). I will share all the responses with you.
>
>
>Thank you
>
>john
>
>John Suarez
>Writing Instructor
>English Department
>SUNY Cortland
>P.O. Box 2000
>Cortland, New York 13035
>(607) 753-2320
>
>

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