Re: Another thought for the cwn's

To Service Learning Participants, please delete this message now if you
do not want to read an early a.m. attempt at jocularity, service
learning style.

Dear Michael,  The other reason for such notes as Tony's in addition to
those  noted in my posting a few minutes ago  is the exposure to an
extended, explosive vocabulary.  Personally, I had never heard of
"ecblastesis" until Tony's  email.  I am trusting that through our
service  learning activities our students will experience one.

Joann Jelly



Michael Greene wrote:

>  Tony,Thanks for taking the time to summarize the discussion... one
> which (as you pointed out) we were not privy to during its formation.
> I'll grant that I could've given up my role in the "overworked silent
> majority" and offered my feelings on the matter.  I am hopeful that
> many (most, even) of those out there on the listserv agree with your
> feelings of wanting to share thoughts with the amazing assemblage of
> minds represented by the Service Learning Network... I think that
> Patricia hit the nail on the head when she suggested that we have "on"
> and "off" days for rampant intellectualism.  Those folks who consider
> this an inappropriate forum for the development of thought are
> probably new to the concept and use of the computer as a global
> communications device -- those of us who've been "talking" since the
> old BBS days may better appreciate its significance.At any rate, I did
> not see any postings after your initial one and, as such, had no
> reminder to contribute my $0.02 worth.  In fact, I initially clicked
> on the "reply" button rather than the "reply to all" button.
> Listservs only work if you use the "reply to all" button and use it
> with abandon!  I know where my "delete" key is too! :-)Thanks for a
> thought-provoking... well, er, thought.Michael
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>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: owner-Service-Learning@csf.colorado.edu
>      [mailto:owner-Service-Learning@csf.colorado.edu]On Behalf Of
>      Anthony Evans
>      Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:20 AM
>      To: SERVICE LEARNING NETWORK
>      Subject: A thought for the cold winter nights - FINALE
>      You will remember that a few days ago I sent a quote from
>      The Times for your consideration. For those who did not see
>      it the quote was: "Oxford, Cambridge, and other elite
>      Universities are the guardians of intellectual life. They
>      cannot teach the qualities that people need in politics and
>      business. Nor can they teach culture and wisdom, any more
>      than theologians teach holiness, philosophers goodness or
>      sociologists a blue print for the future. They exist to
>      cultivate the intellect. All else is secondary." I thought
>      you might be interested in the results of the
>      "discussion". Firstly, of course, I must note that I made a
>      serious cultural error in beginning the debate at
>      Thanksgiving. You might be understanding about this - for
>      some reason it is not a holiday in the UK. The original
>      quote was part of an article about (surprise) money for
>      Universities and made the point that Oxford and Cambridge
>      Dons should concentrate on intellectual life rather that
>      what some see as "fringe" activities, but what we - since we
>      belong to this grouping - would not see as fringe but
>      integral to the development of the student. It is a matter
>      of history that the US has been more concerned with "the
>      total student" than the UK where traditionally a university
>      degree was three or four years heavy concentration on a
>      single subject. That does not mean, of course, that the US
>      did not have some way to go and we might argue that, over
>      the last few years, the move from service-learning in "stand
>      alone" programmes to integration into disciplines has been a
>      pedagogical ecblastesis* (!) that still has some way to go,
>      but is very welcome. As interesting as the subject itself,
>      however, I - and others - thought, was the response. A good
>      number of people responded many in terms I have expressed
>      above. One point I particularly liked was that although a
>      teacher of theology cannot teach holiness - the teacher can
>      BE holy. What we are is as important as what we teach -
>      integrity is not to be preserved but, maybe, created. (biver
>      - with a quote like that I would have liked to put a name to
>      it... rather than an e-mail address). Tom Shields said that
>      the quote indicated the continuing belief that learning
>      occurs best within walls - a belief we should constantly
>      challenge and with one voice. Other replies - in fact the
>      majority - were depressing. There were complaints that I was
>      wasting the time of busy people with a discussion that had
>      no relevance to service-learning. I was criticised for
>      adopting a condescending manner to colleagues because I had
>      put the word "Discuss!" at the end of my post. One final
>      point - all replies pro and con - except for two were sent
>      direct to me rather than to the group. It may be now that
>      most see the list-serv primarily as a site for advertising
>      posts and programmes - which I don't mind personally - but
>      it is a pity if we now have no time to exchange
>      thinking. Cheers - and a very Happy Holiday to all of you
>      out there! Tony*the bursting forth of flowers in
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